GAYS AND LESBIANS CAN
BE TRUE CHRISTIANS


You can be both a Christian and a loving, sexually-
active gay man or lesbian or bisexual.

And this Gay and Christian website shows why you can.  A
warm welcome to you!

What this site can do for you

Although this site is for everyone, it should especially help gay
men, lesbians and bisexuals
who feel a conflict between their
sexuality and their Christian beliefs.

You can be sure that
God loves you and has given you an
attraction to others of the same sex.  (Or to both sexes if you
are bisexual, or to people of the opposite sex if you are
straight).

It is totally okay to be different by being romantically or sexually
attracted to someone of the same sex as yourself and to act on
those attractions in a non-harmful way.

You can be certain that the Bible’s condemnation of
homosexual activity (sex between men and sex
between women)
does not apply today.

Why does it not apply today?  Because it applied only to
people in the ancient cultures of biblical times.  
(Scroll down for full details)

So man-man sex and woman-woman sex is okay
today if no one is harmed.


The main ideas of this site are:

SAME-SEX ATTRACTION

The Bible accepts same-sex attraction and
might refer to same-sex orientation.

SEX BETWEEN MEN

The Bible is silent on sex between men
except for full sex, which it prohibits.  This  
prohibition does not apply today because it  
applied only to the Bible cultures.

All sex between men (including full sex) is
okay if no one is harmed.

SEX BETWEEN WOMEN

The Bible criticizes sex between women but
does not prohibit it.  As the criticism is
culturally based, it does not apply today.

Sex between women is okay if no one is
harmed.

LOVE

A long-term relationship between two men
or two women has love, affection and caring
as well as sex.  




Interested in more details?  Then read on:

This site shows that:

The Bible talks about same-sex acts but not  
homosexuals, gay men or lesbians
.

The Bible treats same-sex acts as illegal sex acts committed
by ordinary people.  Therefore any use of
homosexual,
homosexuality
or sodomites in a Bible version is a
misleading
translation error.  So there is no criticism or
condemnation in the Bible of homosexuality as a sexual
orientation or of gay men or lesbians as types of people.


The Bible accepts same-sex attraction.

The Bible has positive stories of same-sex emotional or
romantic attraction and deep friendship.  Also, the Bible might
indirectly refer to same-sex (homosexual) orientation.  
More details of same-sex attraction


The Bible nowhere says that all sex outside
marriage is wrong.

The Bible simply says that certain kinds of sex, e.g. incest and
adultery and prostitution, are wrong.
 More details of sex
outside marriage


The Bible's criticism of sex between women
does not apply today.

The Bible has only one criticism of sex between women
(lesbian, straight or bisexual) but does not say
don’t do it.  The
criticism seems to be based on how women's sex roles were
seen in the Roman and Jewish cultures of Biblical times
(women should be passive, not active, in sex).  As the criticism
is culturally based, it does not apply today.  
More details


The Bible is okay with non-penetrative sex
between men.

The Bible does not criticize or prohibit any form of sex
between men (including oral sex, deep kissing, fondling and
mutual masturbation) except for men fully penetrating men.  
Therefore all these non-penetrative forms of sex between men
are totally okay (provided no harm is done).


The Bible's condemnation of full penetrative sex
between men does not apply today.

The Bible criticizes and prohibits only men fully penetrating
men.  As in other societies of biblical times, the condemnation
was aimed at the man being penetrated.  

Why does this condemnation not apply today?  Because the
main reason for condemning was cultural, not universal.  So
the condemnation itself was cultural, not universal.  It therefore
does not apply today.

This main reason was the view, in ancient biblical times, that
God made men to penetrate in sex and women to be
penetrated.  Therefore for a man to be sexually penetrated
meant that he was acting like a woman (who is penetrated)
instead of like a man (who penetrates) and this was wrong,
unmanly, shameful and degrading.  The male penetrator was
condemned for helping the penetrated man to act like a
woman.

Although this view of male gender roles is still held in some
societies today, it is not held in many others.  This variation in
attitudes over time and between cultures shows that the
biblical condemnation of sex between men is cultural, not
universal.

Further ancient cultural reasons for the condemnation were:
* Men penetrating men also occurred when strong men (such
as soldiers) sometimes humiliated weaker men by raping
them;
* Men penetrating men could also occur in pagan religious
ceremonies;
* Men penetrating men was wasting semen instead of its being
used to create children (future workers and warriors).

As the condemnation was culturally based, it does not apply
today.   
More details


For those who disagree that a Biblical criticism
or prohibition does not apply today when it is
culturally based.

Some Christians say that it does not matter whether a Biblical
criticism or prohibition is culturally based; it is still the Word of
God and must be obeyed.  This view faces difficulties when
slavery is looked at.  The Bible approves of people owning
other people as slaves.  

But despite the Bible’s approval, we don’t say that people can
own other people as slaves today.  One therefore cannot say
that something is approved (slavery) or prohibited (men having
full sex with men) just because the Bible says so.  We need
something more; and this is provided by the biblical “no-harm”
test.  
More no-harm test details                           


Results of the “no-harm” test.

Men having any form of sex with men (including full sex) pass
the “no-harm” test if each man acts with caring love and does
not harm himself, the other man or any third party (e.g., a
partner), physically, emotionally, mentally or relationally, directly
or indirectly.  This also applies to sex between women when no
harm is caused.  
Find out more about the no-harm test


Relationships.

We can observe that a long-term relationship between two
men or two women involves much more than sex.  It usually
includes mutual love and affection, caring and companionship
and is similar to a long-term married relationship between a
man and a woman.


For lots of optimistic and positive things see
here     


Why is it important what the Bible says about
homosexual acts?
  

Because God, who created us, has given us directions and
principles in the Bible about things we should or should not do
in our lives.
The arguments used in this site are based on the Bible, which
is treated as being accurate.


Why does the Web address of this site contain
the words “gays and slaves”?

Because the types of arguments that many Christians now use
against gay persons are very similar to the types of arguments
used in the past to justify slavery.



Got Questions?  Lots of answers here.



Using this site:

You can easily see the main ideas of this site on the detailed
summary above.

You can also see the
main points by clicking on each topic in
the
left-hand panel near the top of the page.  When a page  
gives a
Summary of the topic, you can get more information
by clicking on
More Details on that page.

Alternatively, check the site's pages on the Sitemap at the end
of the Links page.




Contact me

You can comment on anything on this site
or point out where its information is wrong,
by
emailing me (Colin Smith) at dasyure@live.com.  


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(England)

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you for putting it together to help people like me.  Simon (UK)



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